Pg. 155 Charlotte and company visit Rosings. Describe this visit. How does Lady Catherine de Bourgh treat Elizabeth? What can you infer about Lady Catherine’s character from this meeting?
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Tiffany Friedlund
Mr. Collins tries to make it seem like Lady Catherine is a saint. That she is humble and loving of everyone. He tells Elizabeth to "not make [herself] uneasy...about [her] apparel" and that "Lady Catherine is far from requiring that elegance of dress in [them] which becomes herself and daugther"(155). What Mr. Collins forget to mention, however, were Lady Catherine's other requirements for a well brought up woman. She asks if Elizabeth plays and sings, draws, and about the Bennet's governess, or lack thereof. She treats Elizabeth as if she was raised by wolves. I believe that she is rather disgusted with the way the Bennet girls were brought up. She puts so much weight on a governess' shoulders saying that "without a governess [the Bennet girls] must have been neglected"(159). I think that Lady Catherine is stuck up, arrogant, pompous, and a lot like Mr. Collins. They both think that they are better than everyone else (except for Lady Catherine, for no one can be greater than her in Mr. Collins' eyes) and they both have to make speeches in order to boast about their greatness like when Lady Catherine is boasting about how she has "been the means of supplying"(159) governesses to families in need. She made a long speech just to say that and glorify herself even more. I can't stand when people do that. Then she goes on to pretty much tell Elizabeth that her education is lacking because "nothing is to be done in education without steady and regular instruction, and nobody but a governess can give it"(159).
The first impression of what Mr. Collins' Lady Catherine is that she is hasty. He says that "Lady Catherine very much objected to be kept waiting for her dinner" (155) which also made me think that maybe she is a bit portly... Later on we find that she is confident in her power ("whatever she said was spoken in so authoritative a tone as marked her self-importance" (156). Lady Catherine also, when she does speak, does not give anyone else a chance to speak their part. She is very interested in Elizabeth because she is the least known of all the company, and Lady Catherine bombards Elizabeth with many questions. Lady Catherine seems to be a very well put together kind of woman. -Allie
First, I'm going to start off by saying that I think Lady Catherine has good insight but she thinks she is better than everyone else. Mr. Collins makes me think she feels superior than everyone by telling Elizabeth, "She likes to have the distinction of rank preserved"(Austen 155). This visit to Rosings was a little bit boring I think. It seemed kind of awkward because Mr. Collins and Sir William just kept admiring things, Maria was about to pass out and Elizabeth was getting criticized by Lady Catherine. Lady Catherine thought Elizabeth's whole upbringing was wrong. Elizabeth should have been better educated in all things like piano and drawing and of course no one can be educated unless you have a governess.
My dearest Tiffany, Your statement "She treats Elizabeth as if she was raised by a pack of wolves" really made me giglle. Your use of quotes in your sentences was exceptional. All the sentences seemed to flow very nicely and there wasn't much awkwardness. Also, the descriptive words you used for Lady Catherine (arrogant, stuck up, pompous) were spot on and very mean. i liked it! hehehe.....over all i greatly enjoyed your comment.
I like Tiffany's description of the way Lady Catherine treated Elizabeth. "She treats Elizabeth as if she was raised by wolves." This description very much fits my own about Lady Catherine'S pompus attitude and the rude manner in which she attacked Elizabeth.
I like Kierstynn's perspective of Lady Catherine, mainly because it was very similar to my own. I think Lady Catherine is highly intelligent and may have well earned her role, but all she seems to do is criticize, complain, and ask for things. I didn't think it was right for her to judge Elizabeth's upbringing. At the same time, Mr.Collins is really really reallyyyyyyyy starting to annoy me with how much he basically worships Lady Catherine. It seems that the most important person in the world is Lady Catherine as far as Mr.Collins is concerned. - Cassondra
Amen Sister!!! Love it! I couldn't agree more with your description of Lady Catherine. She is absolutely "stuck up, arrogant, pompous." But I never realized how similar she and Mr. Collins are. Both feel that they are far "superior" and use long speeches to express this. I had never put that together until now.
Kaitlyn I agree with Kierstynn about how Lady Catherine has good insight, and compliment her perspective. I had never thought that though Lady Catherines advice may be unwanted, she is giving good advice. This idea has changed my perspective of Lady Catherine a little, because even if her advice is unwanted she gives it because she thinks it will help.
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Tiffany Friedlund
Mr. Collins tries to make it seem like Lady Catherine is a saint. That she is humble and loving of everyone. He tells Elizabeth to "not make [herself] uneasy...about [her] apparel" and that "Lady Catherine is far from requiring that elegance of dress in [them] which becomes herself and daugther"(155). What Mr. Collins forget to mention, however, were Lady Catherine's other requirements for a well brought up woman. She asks if Elizabeth plays and sings, draws, and about the Bennet's governess, or lack thereof. She treats Elizabeth as if she was raised by wolves. I believe that she is rather disgusted with the way the Bennet girls were brought up. She puts so much weight on a governess' shoulders saying that "without a governess [the Bennet girls] must have been neglected"(159).
I think that Lady Catherine is stuck up, arrogant, pompous, and a lot like Mr. Collins. They both think that they are better than everyone else (except for Lady Catherine, for no one can be greater than her in Mr. Collins' eyes) and they both have to make speeches in order to boast about their greatness like when Lady Catherine is boasting about how she has "been the means of supplying"(159) governesses to families in need. She made a long speech just to say that and glorify herself even more. I can't stand when people do that. Then she goes on to pretty much tell Elizabeth that her education is lacking because "nothing is to be done in education without steady and regular instruction, and nobody but a governess can give it"(159).
The first impression of what Mr. Collins' Lady Catherine is that she is hasty. He says that "Lady Catherine very much objected to be kept waiting for her dinner" (155) which also made me think that maybe she is a bit portly... Later on we find that she is confident in her power ("whatever she said was spoken in so authoritative a tone as marked her self-importance" (156). Lady Catherine also, when she does speak, does not give anyone else a chance to speak their part. She is very interested in Elizabeth because she is the least known of all the company, and Lady Catherine bombards Elizabeth with many questions. Lady Catherine seems to be a very well put together kind of woman.
-Allie
First, I'm going to start off by saying that I think Lady Catherine has good insight but she thinks she is better than everyone else. Mr. Collins makes me think she feels superior than everyone by telling Elizabeth, "She likes to have the distinction of rank preserved"(Austen 155). This visit to Rosings was a little bit boring I think. It seemed kind of awkward because Mr. Collins and Sir William just kept admiring things, Maria was about to pass out and Elizabeth was getting criticized by Lady Catherine. Lady Catherine thought Elizabeth's whole upbringing was wrong. Elizabeth should have been better educated in all things like piano and drawing and of course no one can be educated unless you have a governess.
Kierstynn Combs
My dearest Tiffany, Your statement "She treats Elizabeth as if she was raised by a pack of wolves" really made me giglle. Your use of quotes in your sentences was exceptional. All the sentences seemed to flow very nicely and there wasn't much awkwardness. Also, the descriptive words you used for Lady Catherine (arrogant, stuck up, pompous) were spot on and very mean. i liked it! hehehe.....over all i greatly enjoyed your comment.
Love, Carole
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Bethanie
I like Tiffany's description of the way Lady Catherine treated Elizabeth. "She treats Elizabeth as if she was raised by wolves." This description very much fits my own about Lady Catherine'S pompus attitude and the rude manner in which she attacked Elizabeth.
I like Kierstynn's perspective of Lady Catherine, mainly because it was very similar to my own. I think Lady Catherine is highly intelligent and may have well earned her role, but all she seems to do is criticize, complain, and ask for things. I didn't think it was right for her to judge Elizabeth's upbringing. At the same time, Mr.Collins is really really reallyyyyyyyy starting to annoy me with how much he basically worships Lady Catherine. It seems that the most important person in the world is Lady Catherine as far as Mr.Collins is concerned.
- Cassondra
Darienne
@Tiffany
Amen Sister!!! Love it! I couldn't agree more with your description of Lady Catherine. She is absolutely "stuck up, arrogant, pompous." But I never realized how similar she and Mr. Collins are. Both feel that they are far "superior" and use long speeches to express this. I had never put that together until now.
Kaitlyn
I agree with Kierstynn about how Lady Catherine has good insight, and compliment her perspective. I had never thought that though Lady Catherines advice may be unwanted, she is giving good advice. This idea has changed my perspective of Lady Catherine a little, because even if her advice is unwanted she gives it because she thinks it will help.
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