What was Charlotte's earlier advice to Elizabeth about Jane and Bingley? What were Bingley's feeling for Jane? (pages 20, 137).
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Elisabeth, One of the major points in Charlotte's advice to Elizabeth about Jane and Bingley "If a woman conceals her affection with the same skill from the object of it, she may lose the opportunity of fixing him"(Austen 20). Charlotte is saying that Jane cannot conceal her feelings for Mr. Bingley because he may think Jane does not have the same feelings for him as he does for her. Another of her points was that if Jane hides her feelings then everyone else will feel that she has no feelings for Bingley. Elizabeth says "if I can perceive her regard for him, he must be a simpleton indeed not to discover it too"(Austen 20). Charlotte goes on to say that not everyone knows Jane like Elizabeth does, so Jane needs to pronounce her feelings more strongly towards Bingley. Bingley's for Jane seemed to be very noticeable to everyone who was around him. Unlike Jane, he did not have a problem showing his feelings. Elizabeth says "he was growing quite inattentive to other people, and wholly engrossed by her"(Austen 137). Bingley is in love with Jane and had no problems in expressing it.
Charlotte gave Elizabeth her strong opinion of marriage when she said, "But though Bingley and Jane meet tolerably often, it is never for many hours together... When she is secure of him, there will be leisure for falling in love as much as she chooses(20)."
On page 137 Mrs. Gardiner inquired about Bingley's feelings toward Jane. Bingley was paying less attention to other people, not to mention the ladies who offended, as his affections grew stronger and stronger for Jane.
Charlotte advices Elizabeth concerning Jane that, "it is sometimes a disadvantage to be so very guarded. If a woman conceals her affection with the same skill from the object of it, she may lose the opportunity of fixing him... there are very few of us who have heart enough to be really in love without encouragement. In nine cases out of ten, a woman had better show more affection than she feels. Bingley likes your sister undoubtedly; but he may never do more than like her, if she does not help him on" (Austen 20). Elizabeth states that Mr. Bingley was, "violently in love with [Jane]" (Austen 136) and that she, "never saw a more promising inclination. He was growing quite inattentive to other people, and wholly engrossed by her. Every time they met, it was more decided and remarkable. At his own ball he offended two or three young ladies by not asking them to dance, and I spoke to him twice myself, without receiving an answer. Could there be finer sympotoms? Is not general incivility the very essence of love?" (Austen 137). Based on what Elizabeth says of Mr. Bingleys feeling, I have to say that Charlotte is wrong when she advices that Jane must pretend to be more affectionate towards Bingley than she really is. Up until Mr. Bingley left, their relationship was stable, and they seemed perfectly in love.
Mr. Bingley was “growing quite inattentive to other people, and wholly engrossed by her. Every time they met, it was more decided and remarkable”(137) towards Jane. This illustrates his affections greatly given that one was not to show too great of favoritism to one of the opposite sex until post marriage. This doesn't occur to Charlotte who believes Jane isn't being blatant enough. She believes that Jane should “make the most of every half hour in which she can command his attention. When she is secure of him, there will e leisure for falling in love as much as she chooses”(20). This is evident in Charlotte's behavior towards Mr. Collins when she is trying to win his hand, however it seems to not have much pertinence towards Jane's situation given that they were both stricken. ~~Haley White
Elizabeth, you did a great job of using quotes that related to the posting and backing them up. I agree with everything you say, and I find it interesting that you pulled out the part of Charlotte saying that Jane needs to emphasize her affection towards Bingley.
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Elisabeth,
One of the major points in Charlotte's advice to Elizabeth about Jane and Bingley "If a woman conceals her affection with the same skill from the object of it, she may lose the opportunity of fixing him"(Austen 20). Charlotte is saying that Jane cannot conceal her feelings for Mr. Bingley because he may think Jane does not have the same feelings for him as he does for her. Another of her points was that if Jane hides her feelings then everyone else will feel that she has no feelings for Bingley. Elizabeth says "if I can perceive her regard for him, he must be a simpleton indeed not to discover it too"(Austen 20). Charlotte goes on to say that not everyone knows Jane like Elizabeth does, so Jane needs to pronounce her feelings more strongly towards Bingley.
Bingley's for Jane seemed to be very noticeable to everyone who was around him. Unlike Jane, he did not have a problem showing his feelings. Elizabeth says "he was growing quite inattentive to other people, and wholly engrossed by her"(Austen 137). Bingley is in love with Jane and had no problems in expressing it.
Charlotte gave Elizabeth her strong opinion of marriage when she said, "But though Bingley and Jane meet tolerably often, it is never for many hours together... When she is secure of him, there will be leisure for falling in love as much as she chooses(20)."
On page 137 Mrs. Gardiner inquired about Bingley's feelings toward Jane. Bingley was paying less attention to other people, not to mention the ladies who offended, as his affections grew stronger and stronger for Jane.
Charlotte advices Elizabeth concerning Jane that, "it is sometimes a disadvantage to be so very guarded. If a woman conceals her affection with the same skill from the object of it, she may lose the opportunity of fixing him... there are very few of us who have heart enough to be really in love without encouragement. In nine cases out of ten, a woman had better show more affection than she feels. Bingley likes your sister undoubtedly; but he may never do more than like her, if she does not help him on" (Austen 20). Elizabeth states that Mr. Bingley was, "violently in love with [Jane]" (Austen 136) and that she, "never saw a more promising inclination. He was growing quite inattentive to other people, and wholly engrossed by her. Every time they met, it was more decided and remarkable. At his own ball he offended two or three young ladies by not asking them to dance, and I spoke to him twice myself, without receiving an answer. Could there be finer sympotoms? Is not general incivility the very essence of love?" (Austen 137). Based on what Elizabeth says of Mr. Bingleys feeling, I have to say that Charlotte is wrong when she advices that Jane must pretend to be more affectionate towards Bingley than she really is. Up until Mr. Bingley left, their relationship was stable, and they seemed perfectly in love.
Mr. Bingley was “growing quite inattentive to other people, and wholly engrossed by her. Every time they met, it was more decided and remarkable”(137) towards Jane. This illustrates his affections greatly given that one was not to show too great of favoritism to one of the opposite sex until post marriage. This doesn't occur to Charlotte who believes Jane isn't being blatant enough. She believes that Jane should “make the most of every half hour in which she can command his attention. When she is secure of him, there will e leisure for falling in love as much as she chooses”(20). This is evident in Charlotte's behavior towards Mr. Collins when she is trying to win his hand, however it seems to not have much pertinence towards Jane's situation given that they were both stricken. ~~Haley White
The 10:20AM comment was Kaitlyn Betz.
Amy
Elizabeth, you did a great job of using quotes that related to the posting and backing them up. I agree with everything you say, and I find it interesting that you pulled out the part of Charlotte saying that Jane needs to emphasize her affection towards Bingley.
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