Jane and Elizabeth discuss the “relationship” between Mr. Bingley and Miss Darcy. What are the Bingley sisters’ motives behind keeping Bingley in London?(132-133). Do you agree with the Bingley’s sisters’ reasons?
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Tausha: It is completely obvious as to why they are keeping Mr. Bingley in London, they want him to marry or fall into fancy with Miss Darcy. The sister do not care about other's feelings only their own so when they come up with a plan it will simply benefit them in the end. Elizabeth sayd, "they may wish him to marry a girl who has all the importance of money, great connections, and pride", i this to be true (Austen 133). Miss Bingley and her sister seem to have the social aspect of life as a priority rather than happiness. Yet, Jane is to naive to view the situation this way, "they have known her much longer than they have known me; no wonder if they love her better"(Austen 133). I believe Jane only views the admirable qualities in people and can not establish an ill quality. I do not agree with the Bingley sisters one bit. They are out of control and do not have the authority to make this decision. If they would care about their brothers happiness instead of their own benefits, they would be able to see the dissatisfaction in the situation.
Mr Bingley's sisters' motives behind keeping Bingley in London are so he can basically forget all about Jane. They want him to marry someone who will "increase wealth and consequence, marry a girl who has all the importance of money, great connections, and pride" (Austen 133). They believe Miss Darcy is more qualified to be a wife to Mr Bingley than Jane is. I do not agree with his sisters' motives at all. They should allow their brother to be happy and let him choose his bride. On the other hand, Mr Bingley needs to step up, be a man, and not let his female relatives walk all over him. He's a man, he's got a brain and he has feet so go to your girl!
Elizabeth interprets the Bingley sisters' motives quite clear when she states that, "They may wish many things besides his happiness; they may wish his increase of wealth and consequence; they may wish him to marry a girl who has all the importance of money, great connections, and pride" (133). His sisters are not interested in how he truly feels about Jane but only take into account the lack of wealth and status it would bring him to marry her.
I defintely do not agree with their scheme. They should consider Bingley's feelings on the matter and trust that he's making the right choice for him and not trying to choose for him and manipulate him in this way.
Persuasion isn't really the right term. I think he just does what he is told without question. Each time someone expresses what they want him to do, there is no hesitance or decisiveness when he answers. Bingley does exactly what he is told or what has been insisted that he do.
-Bethanie Bingley's sister want their brother to marry someone that is up to their standards, which is completely ludicrous! It shouldn't matter that Miss Darcy is more sophisticated than Jane, or that she is wealthy, or that her family comes from "good" breeding. Sister's shouldn't have a say in who their brothers marry other than a respectable opinion of the person. However, even then it is still the brother's decision who he wishes to marry. Family member shouldn't try to drive a gulable, gentle guy away from someone he cares about just because they know they can. Bingley is being taken advantage of by his own friends and family. That's not right and I don't support it.
Tepes "Beyond a doubt, [the Bingley sisters] do wish [Mr. Bingley] to choose Miss Darcy" (133). The Bingley sisters are trying to keep their brother as far away from the Bennett family especially Jane. I don't blame them. With all that happened at the ball in Netherfield, they must have been extremely humiliated by the words and actions of the Bennett family. The Bennett family are also of a lower social class. This may make Jane appear that she wants to hook up with the Bingley's income not the man himself. This can also be humiliating for the Bingley family. Miss Darcy just seems to be the perfect fit for Mr. Bingley. Her family has money, and she will not be an embarassing addition to the Bingley family.
Carole Surfus... I believe that Mr.Bingley's sisters want to be able to control their brother's life. They do so by playing on his submissiveness and alienating themselves from the Bennets. Also i believe that the sister's mention to the admiration of their brother for Miss Darcy is a far stretch, and they are doing so just to diminish Jane's hopes. When Jane read their later letter "Miss Darcy's praise occupied the chief of it" (129), and this was surely done to solidify their point. I belive that the Bingley sisters are nothing but scheming brats who need to learn that they shouldn't toy with people's emotions just to get their way!
I think Tausha did a great job of discribing the Bingley sister's motives. They are wrong for discriminating against poor Jane but when you think of the time period it is quite obvious why they chose Miss Darcy over Jane. Their role in Mr. Bingley's departure tore Jane up knowing that he was so easily persuaded to stay away.
Elisabeth, I really like Katelyn's post on here because she is exactly right with what she is saying. Bingley's sisters only care about themselves and how their family will look if Bingley marries into a family like Jane's. She's right with the sisters should be more concerned about Bingley's feelings than how their image will appear to everyone else. Bingley should be able to make his own choices without worrying about what the rest of his family thinks.
I could not have expressed my disgusted feelings for the Miss Bingley and Mrs. Hurst any better than Carole did herself. She hits it spot on for me! Those two women want to have complete power not just over where Mr. Bingly lives but also who his love interest is. Carole said " they play on his submissiveness", which is such an amazing point! Those two women count on him giving in to their every demand and he does just that. She also talks about how they want to "diminish Janes hope", which i loved that! She is so correct, they want to make Jane feel like she has no hope and they do just that! What evil conniving women, I hope they soon get theirs!
@Katelyn, I agree with you they don't really care about Mr. Bingly. They want Miss Darcy as their sister and they don't care that they are taking away from his happiness. They really should stay out of his love life.
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Tausha:
It is completely obvious as to why they are keeping Mr. Bingley in London, they want him to marry or fall into fancy with Miss Darcy. The sister do not care about other's feelings only their own so when they come up with a plan it will simply benefit them in the end. Elizabeth sayd, "they may wish him to marry a girl who has all the importance of money, great connections, and pride", i this to be true (Austen 133). Miss Bingley and her sister seem to have the social aspect of life as a priority rather than happiness. Yet, Jane is to naive to view the situation this way, "they have known her much longer than they have known me; no wonder if they love her better"(Austen 133). I believe Jane only views the admirable qualities in people and can not establish an ill quality.
I do not agree with the Bingley sisters one bit. They are out of control and do not have the authority to make this decision. If they would care about their brothers happiness instead of their own benefits, they would be able to see the dissatisfaction in the situation.
Brittany S
Mr Bingley's sisters' motives behind keeping Bingley in London are so he can basically forget all about Jane. They want him to marry someone who will "increase wealth and consequence, marry a girl who has all the importance of money, great connections, and pride" (Austen 133). They believe Miss Darcy is more qualified to be a wife to Mr Bingley than Jane is. I do not agree with his sisters' motives at all. They should allow their brother to be happy and let him choose his bride. On the other hand, Mr Bingley needs to step up, be a man, and not let his female relatives walk all over him. He's a man, he's got a brain and he has feet so go to your girl!
But remember... he is easily persuaded,isn't he?
Katelyn Peters
Elizabeth interprets the Bingley sisters' motives quite clear when she states that, "They may wish many things besides his happiness; they may wish his increase of wealth and consequence; they may wish him to marry a girl who has all the importance of money, great connections, and pride" (133). His sisters are not interested in how he truly feels about Jane but only take into account the lack of wealth and status it would bring him to marry her.
I defintely do not agree with their scheme. They should consider Bingley's feelings on the matter and trust that he's making the right choice for him and not trying to choose for him and manipulate him in this way.
Brittany S
Persuasion isn't really the right term. I think he just does what he is told without question. Each time someone expresses what they want him to do, there is no hesitance or decisiveness when he answers. Bingley does exactly what he is told or what has been insisted that he do.
-Bethanie
Bingley's sister want their brother to marry someone that is up to their standards, which is completely ludicrous! It shouldn't matter that Miss Darcy is more sophisticated than Jane, or that she is wealthy, or that her family comes from "good" breeding. Sister's shouldn't have a say in who their brothers marry other than a respectable opinion of the person. However, even then it is still the brother's decision who he wishes to marry. Family member shouldn't try to drive a gulable, gentle guy away from someone he cares about just because they know they can. Bingley is being taken advantage of by his own friends and family. That's not right and I don't support it.
Character flaw?
Tepes
"Beyond a doubt, [the Bingley sisters] do wish [Mr. Bingley] to choose Miss Darcy" (133). The Bingley sisters are trying to keep their brother as far away from the Bennett family especially Jane. I don't blame them. With all that happened at the ball in Netherfield, they must have been extremely humiliated by the words and actions of the Bennett family. The Bennett family are also of a lower social class. This may make Jane appear that she wants to hook up with the Bingley's income not the man himself. This can also be humiliating for the Bingley family. Miss Darcy just seems to be the perfect fit for Mr. Bingley. Her family has money, and she will not be an embarassing addition to the Bingley family.
Carole Surfus...
I believe that Mr.Bingley's sisters want to be able to control their brother's life. They do so by playing on his submissiveness and alienating themselves from the Bennets. Also i believe that the sister's mention to the admiration of their brother for Miss Darcy is a far stretch, and they are doing so just to diminish Jane's hopes. When Jane read their later letter "Miss Darcy's praise occupied the chief of it" (129), and this was surely done to solidify their point. I belive that the Bingley sisters are nothing but scheming brats who need to learn that they shouldn't toy with people's emotions just to get their way!
Tabitha- you don't blame them? Poor Jane should be dismissed because of the way her family acted?
I think Tausha did a great job of discribing the Bingley sister's motives. They are wrong for discriminating against poor Jane but when you think of the time period it is quite obvious why they chose Miss Darcy over Jane. Their role in Mr. Bingley's departure tore Jane up knowing that he was so easily persuaded to stay away.
Elisabeth,
I really like Katelyn's post on here because she is exactly right with what she is saying. Bingley's sisters only care about themselves and how their family will look if Bingley marries into a family like Jane's. She's right with the sisters should be more concerned about Bingley's feelings than how their image will appear to everyone else. Bingley should be able to make his own choices without worrying about what the rest of his family thinks.
Shayna...
@ Carole
I could not have expressed my disgusted feelings for the Miss Bingley and Mrs. Hurst any better than Carole did herself. She hits it spot on for me! Those two women want to have complete power not just over where Mr. Bingly lives but also who his love interest is. Carole said " they play on his submissiveness", which is such an amazing point! Those two women count on him giving in to their every demand and he does just that. She also talks about how they want to "diminish Janes hope", which i loved that! She is so correct, they want to make Jane feel like she has no hope and they do just that! What evil conniving women, I hope they soon get theirs!
@Katelyn,
I agree with you they don't really care about Mr. Bingly. They want Miss Darcy as their sister and they don't care that they are taking away from his happiness. They really should stay out of his love life.
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